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Home > The Core Blog > Core Blog Archive > June, 2009

June, 2009

A New Month, a New Tragedy

By Ethan Rouen ’04J on June 30, 2009

It's time to jump a few centuries into the future for King Lear. Because of the holidays, I think it will make more sense to start on Monday, July 6.

Meanwhile, we are always looking for ways to improve the blog and encourage participation. If you have any suggestions on what you want to see here - and be creative. We're not limiting it to Lit Hum or anything else - please e-mail Ethan Rouen.

Thanks, and enjoy the long weekend. 

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Back in My Day

By Ethan Rouen ’04J on June 29, 2009

So here we are, more than halfway through the syllabus. I loved each book, and what stood out most is (excluding Oedipus the King) the humor that has traveled thousands of years to still be funny today.

So much of literature deflates over time. Often, reading books even 30 years old, I'm reminded of Grandpa Simpson from The Simpsons, who often starts his incomprehensible ramblings with "Back in my day," and ends them with something bizarre, like "a suitcase was called a Swedish lunchbox."

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The True Thesis

By Ethan Rouen ’04J on June 25, 2009

While Symposium is about love, Alcibiades makes it clear that it's also about love of Socrates. There is mild criticism, but only to prove the philosopher's wisdom, kindness and humility.

Drunk, handsome Alcibiades storms into the gabfest, and we expect some serious partying. Instead, he speaks of his affection for Socrates and his frustration with love unrequited.

As this entire book is written by Plato, we can imagine that much of what is said reflects his own feelings toward his mentor.

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Diotima’s Speech

By Ethan Rouen ’04J on June 23, 2009

"Love is wanting to possess the good forever," Diotima says through Socrates (206A). That pretty much sums it up, doesn't it?

The logic of how Diotima comes to that conclusion is where the beauty lies. Socrates thought of love as being loved, not being a lover, she says. "I think that's why Love struck you as beautiful in every way." (204C)

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Banter Between the Wise

By Ethan Rouen ’04J on June 19, 2009

Banter Between the Wise

I enjoy the humorous, playful back and forth that goes on among the philosophers ... and between Sophocles and himself.

Diotima brings up the interesting definition of spiritual, that it is the bridge between the immortals and the mortals. It's a wonderful way of defining devotion, an intangible that exists as a way to connect us with what we don't know or see, but we are positive exists.

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I've Got To Disagree

By Ethan Rouen ’04J on June 17, 2009

Agathon is the most beautiful and youngest of these sober philosophers, so he rushes to define love as what I consider lust.

"Love was born to hate old age and will come nowhere near it," he says. (195B)

He goes on to describe how Love, the god, turns people into poets and artists. These ideas, to me, reflect an ignorant youthful love, the kind seen in teen romantic comedies. Maybe it's a matter of taste (I prefer the slow sentimentality of On Golden Pond) but I believe that his definition of love is wrong.

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It’s That Simple

By Ethan Rouen ’04J on June 15, 2009

"Love' is the name for our pursuit of wholeness, for our desire to be complete," Aristophanes says. (193A)

An extremely complex emotion explained perfectly without a wasted word. It makes me think of Abraham Lincoln's beautiful argument against slavery, "As I would not be a slave, so I would not be a master."

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The Old New Age

By Ethan Rouen ’04J on June 11, 2009

I had a craving for yoga while reading Eryximachus' speech. "In short, medicine is simply the science of the effects of Love on repletion and depletion of the body, and the hallmark of the accomplished physician is his ability to distinguish the Love that is noble from the Love that is ugly and disgraceful," he says. (186D)

He goes on to say that love guides not only medicine, but also exercise and farming and poetry and music. "Music is therefore simply the science of the effects of Love on rhythm and harmony." (187C)

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A Bit Over My Head

By Ethan Rouen ’04J on June 10, 2009

I didn't know what to make of Pausanias' speech. It was obviously a defense of homosexuality, with both sides arguing in a way similar to the current debate. But beyond that, all I read was that virtue and sincerity are good, while prostitution and the like are bad.

Any thoughts?

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Looking for a Definition

By Ethan Rouen ’04J on June 9, 2009

Okay, this may not be the last time I marvel at a definition of love as we plow through Syposium. After all, it's only the first monologue.

But Phaedrus' explanation, by showing what love is about instead of telling, strikes me as ingenious.

" ... if a man in love is found doing something shameful, or accepting shameful treatment because he is a coward and makes no defense, then nothing would give him more pain than being seen by the boy he loves." (178D-E)

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Socrates the Eccentric

By Ethan Rouen ’04J on June 4, 2009

With a few brief lines of dialogue and short anecdotes, Plato, in the Introductory Dialogue, creates Socrates as a lovable, funny eccentric. I am already drawn to the magnetism of this man who doesn't bathe or dress nicely. He's aware of his greatness, yet humble about it. He can make jokes about his friends, but not in a malicious way. What's not to like?

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Just Dropping In

By Ethan Rouen ’04J on June 3, 2009

For a book consisting of a series of monologues about love, Symposium drops the reader into the middle of the action like any good work of fiction. All of a sudden, we are right there with Apollodorus and his friend, eager to hear about this incredible conversation with the Philosophy All Stars.

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More Greeks Behaving Badly

By Ethan Rouen ’04J on June 2, 2009

The introduction to Plato's Syposium foreshadows a rousing conversation that, while not nearly as morbid as what happened to Oedipus, does show another wild side of the Greek imagination.

What follows will be a debate about love by a bunch of drunk artists and proud pedophiles. That they include rape, as well as traditional relationships, in their love makes the subject even more bizarre. Hold on tight.

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